Post by monkeymind on Dec 29, 2005 20:10:23 GMT
Hello, all!
I got into learning about the dharma indirectly from watching the popular TV show, "Kung Fu," with Daivd Carradine whose teacher would vaguely mention the "Tao." That led to the library to find books about LaoTsu to reading Herman Hesse's "Siddhartha." I'm sure this is a common way Westerners approach Buddhism if you're not an army brat raised in the Far East. Further reading led to Alan Watts and Zen.
An essay by Alan Watt's called "Beat Zen, Square Zen and Zen," gives me great food for thought about the motivations, desires, and subconscious biases I have that bring me to Buddhism. This really resonated with me:
"But the Westerner who is attracted by Zen and who would understand it deeply must have one indispensable qualification: he must understand his own culture so thoroughly that he is no longer swayed by its premises unconsciously. He must really have come to terms with the Lord God Jehovah and with his Hebrew-Christian conscience so that he can take it or leave it without fear or rebellion. He must be free of the urge to justify himself. Lacking this, his Zen will be either "beat" or "square," either a revolt from the culture and social order or a new form of stuffiness and respectability."
home.earthlink.net/~pkrczr/watts.htm
What he says about Zen you could say about any other choice, Theravadin or Vajrayana. It makes me wonder about bias we pick up from living in a Judeo-Christian culture and how much we know about the religion we were raised in before finding Buddhism, speaking as a Westerner. I think it relates to tolerance and openness.
I never knew there was a Book of Timothy in the Bible! It's fun for me to poke around on the Yahooi directory religious faiths page. Mercy, there are like over 50 something different links to other religious faiths. It's a diversion to poke around and see how many different versions of monotheism there are! I was raised Lutheran but always felt a Lord/creator was a tad authoritarian and limiting.
Taking time to sit, meditate and chant, is not as easy as previously thought! Nonetheless, it is a way to practice. as is trying to practice mindfulness in everyday life. Although I don't ask myself these questions on a daily basis, they are relevant.
Have I come to terms with Christianity (or whatever my faith was prior) and my conscience?
Can I leave that faith without fear or rebellion?
We have to reconcile with ourselves in the end.
What do you guys think of this essay and Watt's statements?
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mm
I got into learning about the dharma indirectly from watching the popular TV show, "Kung Fu," with Daivd Carradine whose teacher would vaguely mention the "Tao." That led to the library to find books about LaoTsu to reading Herman Hesse's "Siddhartha." I'm sure this is a common way Westerners approach Buddhism if you're not an army brat raised in the Far East. Further reading led to Alan Watts and Zen.
An essay by Alan Watt's called "Beat Zen, Square Zen and Zen," gives me great food for thought about the motivations, desires, and subconscious biases I have that bring me to Buddhism. This really resonated with me:
"But the Westerner who is attracted by Zen and who would understand it deeply must have one indispensable qualification: he must understand his own culture so thoroughly that he is no longer swayed by its premises unconsciously. He must really have come to terms with the Lord God Jehovah and with his Hebrew-Christian conscience so that he can take it or leave it without fear or rebellion. He must be free of the urge to justify himself. Lacking this, his Zen will be either "beat" or "square," either a revolt from the culture and social order or a new form of stuffiness and respectability."
home.earthlink.net/~pkrczr/watts.htm
What he says about Zen you could say about any other choice, Theravadin or Vajrayana. It makes me wonder about bias we pick up from living in a Judeo-Christian culture and how much we know about the religion we were raised in before finding Buddhism, speaking as a Westerner. I think it relates to tolerance and openness.
I never knew there was a Book of Timothy in the Bible! It's fun for me to poke around on the Yahooi directory religious faiths page. Mercy, there are like over 50 something different links to other religious faiths. It's a diversion to poke around and see how many different versions of monotheism there are! I was raised Lutheran but always felt a Lord/creator was a tad authoritarian and limiting.
Taking time to sit, meditate and chant, is not as easy as previously thought! Nonetheless, it is a way to practice. as is trying to practice mindfulness in everyday life. Although I don't ask myself these questions on a daily basis, they are relevant.
Have I come to terms with Christianity (or whatever my faith was prior) and my conscience?
Can I leave that faith without fear or rebellion?
We have to reconcile with ourselves in the end.
What do you guys think of this essay and Watt's statements?
/\
mm